求意見，從未玩過音響的人~~

之前從來未玩過AV，身邊又沒朋友玩AV....無從入手~~
乜都要買新的，想用大約15000-20000買音響，80%睇電影，20%聽歌。
想買AV amp+ 5.1(前、中、後)+subwoofer+surround sond等.....
請問乜牌子的AV amp入門版好?
請問乜牌子的喇叭好聲?
乜都唔識，電線又要買邊隻好?
又請問石機、膽機係乜?

自已睇左好多forum得知以下幾隻牌子OK的，但又唔知點配答
amp:
cambridge audio 640A V2
onkyo 603

Speaker前、中、後)那隻好?
SB2
Quad 11L
JMLab 806
B&W 6系

subwoofer:
kef 1000.2
JBL EC35


好多問題呀!!希望有高手或有經驗的人回覆。多謝~!!~

歡迎加入發燒行列!!

以我個人經驗, 15k 至 20k 可參孝以下Config

40% Budget on Speaker i.e. less than 8k
Speaker: 80% 電影可選 NHT 組合 - SB2*4/SB1*4+ SC1
Subwoofer: $2000 貨色應該ok, 牌子可選KEF

40% Budget on Amp - i.e. less than 8k
AV Amp: 假如你喜歡Onkyo, 我推介703因為新Model,有THX同可以Pre-out出其他擴音機 (如Cambridge Audio 640A).
2 Channel Amp: cambridge audio 640A V2 不錯

20% Budget on 配件 - i.e. less than $4000
可選同邱生既線材, 價錢及質量合理. 我九成線材都係同邱生訂
http://www.hififever.com/market/showItem.php?marketProductId=345

如果你睇戲多, 就最好用石機(原子粒)因為反應快, 高輸出功率. 膽機(真空管)主要用來聽歌, 貪佢無噤數碼味 (因失真比原子粒機大).

有問題可再問我

電影可選 NHT 組合 - SB2*4/SB1*4+ SC1
以上是不是包括前中後喇叭總共5個喇叭，但不包括subwoofer?
subwoofer是不是要另外買KEF這個牌子?
咁洗唔洗買多一個surround sound的喇叭?

至於amp方面..Onkyo703比cambridge audio 640A V2新同好?
and 駁線方面難唔難駁?有沒有說明書或網頁教駁線?

配件方面我要買邊一隻線?邱生既線材入面有好多種...

石機又係乜野0黎?

好多好多問題，希望你唔會覺得我好煩~~

Primera 師兄，如果安橋 AV amp 的話在原裝機箱包裝內有一份接線圖可供參考，而且所有喇叭端子都用不同顏色作分辨，一步步依從說明書的指導去駁，應該不太難！ :wink:

NHT 組合 - SB2*4/SB1*4+ SC1  是五個speaker不包括subwoofer
Subwoofer 要看你的影院面積, 一般6吋-8吋單原已ok, kef在這價位是不錯的選擇

Surround speaker 也要看你的影院面積, 如果只得100 sq.feet 左右可以不用

Onkyo 703 是 AV amp, Cambridge 640A 是兩聲道amp, 它們有不同用途. AV amp 用來睇電影, 兩聲道amp用來聽歌. 大部分amp有接線圖參考. 很簡單.

線材方面你可先安裝好所有amp同speaker再決定要加邊d到時你可電聯邱生, 他好好人的會慢慢了解你的裝置再介紹給你.

石機即係原子粒機,現在大多都用原子粒機因為成本低功效大
膽機即係真空管機,自無間道起多左人喜歡

請不要怕煩, 我當初玩hifi也是多得各網友比意見!!

[quote:d581546de3="狗記@AV攻略"]Primera 師兄，如果安橋 AV amp 的話在原裝機箱包裝內有一份接線圖可供參考，而且所有喇叭端子都用不同顏色作分辨，一步步依從說明書的指導去駁，應該不太難！ :wink:[/quote]

先多謝你的回覆，唔好叫我"師兄"啦..我乜都唔識..
聽你咁講我唸我會買安橋amp 703,咁買那種喇叭會適合我?(睇戲多)
NHT 組合 - SB2*4/SB1*4+ SC1 ok嗎?
subwoofer呢?
咁洗唔洗買多一個surround sound的喇叭?
仲有野想問就係，座地喇叭同書架有乜分別?

Primera 師兄，請勿客氣，「師兄」的稱謂並不分前後、大小、上下的，所以你係阿狗師兄，阿狗又係你師兄！ :wink:

NHT 當然 OK 啦，活潑有勁，很易推動，與 Goofy 師兄見意的安橋 TX-SR703 是相配的，若要求 7.1 的話可再加多一對後置，即是前三後四，還有一個有電源既 subwoofer ，但若房間太小或後置擺位受局限，這樣兩隻後置已經足夠，亦比較容易控制音場效果。

[quote:9ae060e533="狗記@AV攻略"]Primera 師兄，請勿客氣，「師兄」的稱謂並不分前後、大小、上下的，所以你係阿狗師兄，阿狗又係你師兄！ :wink:

NHT 當然 OK 啦，活潑有勁，很易推動，與 Goofy 師兄見意的安橋 TX-SR703 是相配的，若要求 7.1 的話可再加多一對後置，即是前三後四，還有一個有電源既 subwoofer ，但若房間太小或後置擺位受局限，這樣兩隻後置已經足夠，亦比較容易控制音場效果。 [/quote]

NHT,bose, B&W比那一個會好小小呢?
咁係咪最好五個喇叭前中後都買同一個牌子好?
7.1,我唸我唔會考瀘，我唸我只會考瀘5.1....咁....603係咪已足夠，冇需7.1呢?
最後一個問題，點樣先check到個amp 推唔推得動個speaker?

thx for answering me..

Both B&W and NHT are good speakers, I am using NHT sb1 now, very balance speaker for AV and music, good for value.

咁係咪最好五個喇叭前中後都買同一個牌子好?
For better surrounding effect, I will buy the same brand.

7.1,我唸我唔會考瀘，我唸我只會考瀘5.1....咁....603係咪已足夠，冇需7.1呢?
If you have enough budget, why not go for 703, at least you can upgrade to 7.1 anytime if you like.

最後一個問題，點樣先check到個amp 推唔推得動個speaker?
need to check the spec of speaker and amp, remember to compare them with the same ohms

[quote:0ac07402c4="Timate"]Both B&W and NHT are good speakers, I am using NHT sb1 now, very balance speaker for AV and music, good for value.

咁係咪最好五個喇叭前中後都買同一個牌子好?
For better surrounding effect, I will buy the same brand.

7.1,我唸我唔會考瀘，我唸我只會考瀘5.1....咁....603係咪已足夠，冇需7.1呢?
If you have enough budget, why not go for 703, at least you can upgrade to 7.1 anytime if you like.

最後一個問題，點樣先check到個amp 推唔推得動個speaker?
need to check the spec of speaker and amp, remember to compare them with the same ohms

[/quote]
oh really really thx !!
我唸我而家應該會買703+NHT 5個speaker+kef subwoofer。當然我都會先試下才作決定....
咁...喂你有冇邊間鋪好介紹?買線又去邊到買同買邊個牌子?

咁係咪最好五個喇叭前中後都買同一個牌子好?
For better surrounding effect, I will buy the same brand.

請問洗唔洗買多個surrounding effect的speaker?咁個subwoofer係咪又要買同一牌子比較好?


最後一個問題，點樣先check到個amp 推唔推得動個speaker?
need to check the spec of speaker and amp, remember to compare them with the same ohms
how to check the ohms? if the amp write in 6 ohms, then i need to buy a speaker within 6ohms,right? can't over 6ohms,right?

[/quote]

check with the user manual, the amp's spec usually will indicate the output @4/6/8 ohms,

if your speaker is 8ohms, you need to see the recommand power input and compare this with your amp's output @ 8 ohms.

Don't worry about this if you choose the combination above coz NHT is easy to push.

[quote:22aa55c1b2="Goofy"]Speaker: 80% 電影可選 NHT 組合 - SB2*4/SB1*4+ SC1
[/quote]


問題: SB2*4/SB1*4 + SC1 點解?我好想知"*4" 同SC1點解??

thx !

[quote:cb9696805c="Timate"]
Don't worry about this if you choose the combination above coz NHT is easy to push. [/quote]

yes, you are right !
我今日去左友誠....國際影音且友誠等.....但只係問下價錢同意見...冇試聽..因為冇時間的關係。
我問左onkyo703+成set NHT 組合+ KEF subwoofer都係大約12k左右..價錢都算幾合理...B&w成set就貴小小啦...
個sale話我這set組合都算係大路(即冇講過野)，佢仲話NHT的speaker比B&W易推D.個sale仲suggest我買yammaha的amp，佢話for movie好D.仲有個sale又話bose D speaker唔係好得，而且只係樣靚牌子勁!不過都要搵日去試下聲先。
請問大家仲有冇其它意見給小弟，例如試的時候要試D乜？仲有乜牌子可試等等，請大家比多D意見我!thank you very much ....

NHT SB1 - smaller size NHT speaker
NHT SB2 - larger size NHT speaker
NHT SC1 - NHT center speaker

So you can choose SC1 +
either
SB1 * 4 = 2 pairs of NHT SB1 speakers for front and surround
or
SB2 * 4 = 2 pairs of NHT SB2 speakers for front and surround

to have 5 speakers for AV

[quote:635b96d0e6="Goofy"]NHT SB1 - smaller size NHT speaker
NHT SB2 - larger size NHT speaker
NHT SC1 - NHT center speaker

So you can choose SC1 +
either
SB1 * 4 = 2 pairs of NHT SB1 speakers for front and surround
or
SB2 * 4 = 2 pairs of NHT SB2 speakers for front and surround

to have 5 speakers for AV[/quote]

so can i get SB2 *2 for front and SB1*2 for rear? is it a good set of 5.1 speaker?

Yes, NHT SB2 + NHT SB1 is good as well

[quote:730113f274="Goofy"]Yes, NHT SB2 + NHT SB1 is good as well[/quote]

真係好多謝你比我的意見!!

配件方面我要買邊一隻線?邱生既線材入面有好多種 ??

I suggest you can try the high-grade/ultimate series product range as they are already very good for AV / movie environment

You may need

1 pair of front speaker cables
1 center speaker cable
1 digital cable (from DVD to AV amp)
1 Subwoofer cable (from AV Amp to Subwoofer)

You can contact Mr. Yau as he is very willing to give you suggestions

[quote:01e9f22dc0="Goofy"]I suggest you can try the high-grade/ultimate series product range as they are already very good for AV / movie environment

You may need

1 pair of front speaker cables
1 center speaker cable
1 digital cable (from DVD to AV amp)
1 Subwoofer cable (from AV Amp to Subwoofer)

You can contact Mr. Yau as he is very willing to give you suggestions[/quote]
thank you very very much ......
咁我係咁最好用晒一set 同一牌子的cable for 前、中、後?

for 後置, basic cable will be ok (about $10-20/m) as you need a very long one.

[quote:1dc6c63256="william"]for 後置, basic cable will be ok (about $10-20/m) as you need a very long one.[/quote]

so i need a better cable for front and center only, 後置 just use a basic cable.

thank you very much....

i have a little question...

do i need to buy a 好D 的拖版? or 瀘波器, something like that for AV amp and dvd player ?

Yes, it is better to get a Filtered sockets for CD / DVD player. For AV Amp, you do not need filtered socket, you can plug it to wall socket directly as the filtered socket make it less powerful

Merry Xmas!! Wish you enjoy your AV / HiFi setup!

我星期日去了友誠到試聲，NHT好正，可能我以前冇聽過D大型喇叭的聲!試B&W都好正，唔知買邊隻好!想問下大家邊到買NHT會低D同信得過?B&W又可以向邊到買會好D同低D?我真係想買嫁....

友誠 building should be ok and you can negotiate a bit on price. You have to make sure they have stock before paying since some shop may have no stock but set the price very low.

[quote:4eddd8c5c1="william"]友誠 building should be ok and you can negotiate a bit on price. You have to make sure they have stock before paying since some shop may have no stock but set the price very low.[/quote]

thank you, i saw kef kht 5005 in 豐澤yestaday, the look was very good! is the sound better than SB2? cos the price is so expensive! 我又睇中左佢，我真係好多心，~~~

If you like the speaker, go for it! You will always think of upgrade if you do not buy the one you like!