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標題: 2008 7月-12月 第5項課程召集 - (5) CDPRO2 CD 轉盤製作班 (10月4日繼續組裝) [打印本頁]

作者: admin    時間: 2008-6-5 14:18
標題: 2008 7月-12月 第5項課程召集 - (5) CDPRO2 CD 轉盤製作班 (10月4日繼續組裝)
HiFi Fever 從2008年開始會以召集型式開設工作坊, 砌機課程等等得到各音響發燒友大力支持 (差不多全部滿座), 我們在下半年會再度改良課程內容, 希望更切合大家的要求..

召集課程最先達到最少報名人數要求的便先行開班! 大家留名時亦可說出自己的特別要求, 我們會儘量配合!


2008 7月-12月 第5項課程召集 - CDPRO2 CD 轉盤製作班

1. CDPRO2 loader
2. 入門版 / 終極版
3. 終極版可選True16/24 bits out, 44.1Khz, 48kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz & I2S output
4. 用家可用這高階輸出接至閣下已有的192khZ的 DAC 如 AV Amp, Wadia etc. 很多用家封印了具192khZ 的解碼能力多時
5. 亦可一試44.1/16 Re-clock 輸出
6. 非一般CD Transport可及

名額: 每班最少8名最多12名

日期 (共2個下午):
8月30日 (六) 2:30pm-7:00pm
9月13日 (六) 2:30pm-7:00pm

課程費用 CDPro2 $5680
先付$1000訂金, 尾數在第一堂付.


報名請到: http://shop.hififever.com/product_info.php?products_id=299

己報名(*=已收費)
TonyWang*
Dyna* (大箱)
kenith* (CDPRO2, 大箱, 終極版)
autumnleafcat* (CDPRO2, 大箱, 終極版)
classicyip* (CDPRO2, 大箱, 終極版)
ttzo* (CDM9, 大箱)
9.9N銅* (CDPRO2, 終極版)
bbleung* (CDPRO2, 大箱)
adamcyc* (CDM9)
classicyip* (CDPRO2, 大箱, 終極版)
作者: tonywang    時間: 2008-6-5 15:09
  留1個位給我
CDM-9 細箱 終極版
作者: andy2008    時間: 2008-6-7 20:57
標題: 留位
Kindly count me in, Tks.
作者: ersiu    時間: 2008-6-7 22:32
pls reserve a place for me. tks
作者: ricky42c    時間: 2008-6-9 00:35
CDM-9/CDPRO2 loader  .....which one is better?

thanks~
作者: ttzo    時間: 2008-6-14 09:09
預我1個位
我要大箱CDM-9 終極版
作者: jbnl    時間: 2008-6-15 20:47
Goodday,

Is it possible to buy a CDM-9 with control board ?
If yes what would the price be and is it avalible as DIY kit.
Let me know
作者: ricky_lui    時間: 2008-6-16 11:24
Please count me in for 終極版.
By the way, could you please explain the diff. bewteen CDM-9/CDPRO2. Thanks.
作者: ricky_lui    時間: 2008-6-17 11:17
[quote:8f2aed4871="R.L."]Please count me in for 終極版.
By the way, could you please explain the diff. bewteen CDM-9/CDPRO2. Thanks.[/quote]

No need to answer la. I had read the "old" post.
作者: 9n    時間: 2008-6-18 01:49
1. does this CD Transport has remote...????
2. how about CD rom DSL720A.... is it good and easy to build a CD Transport..????
3. only croxial out..???

Pls add me to join the course !!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-6-19 01:40
9.9N銅:

1. does this CD Transport has remote...????

// YES //

2. how about CD rom DSL720A.... is it good and easy to build a CD Transport..????

// It is not a CDROM, it is a pure CD laser head with SERVO board, a basic electronic soldering skill need, we will teach something at first lesson//

3. only croxial out..???

// Optical, XLR, Coaxial //

KK.Sir
作者: likylam    時間: 2008-6-19 18:48
有班開喇......
霸返個位先!
唔該^=^
作者: Psycho    時間: 2008-6-20 17:15
Hello!

I'm a beginner, so I think CDM-9 is more suitable for me?

When will more details be provided? e.g. date
作者: Psycho    時間: 2008-6-20 17:33
Sorry forget to tell I am interested and want to join
作者: classicyip    時間: 2008-6-23 07:07
有班開, yeah!!!

please count me in!!!
cdpro pls...

how much for a set for cdpro??
作者: calvin1800    時間: 2008-6-27 22:32
how much for each?
作者: z1fv8a    時間: 2008-6-30 01:25
Hi, I would like to apply for the DAC and Transport classes

Kelvin Tai
email (z1fv8a@hififever.com)
作者: bbleung    時間: 2008-7-6 22:35
Join the course again for cdpro 2, extreme version with large case.
Btw., July 12 is fix for the course?
作者: admin    時間: 2008-7-7 09:44
Date has not confirmed for this course. It will be announced shortly.
作者: cyrus    時間: 2008-7-12 18:07
I also want to join.  Can I have a chassis to house a DAC PCB as well?
作者: hin1983214    時間: 2008-7-13 18:05
i want to join too ...please email the price and details to me THX!
作者: admin    時間: 2008-7-14 16:28
開課日期, 費用將在下星期公佈, 已留位者請留意電郵
作者: kenith    時間: 2008-7-15 01:12
CD pro2M, Please count me.
Want to join too ...please email the price and details to me thankyou.
作者: raphaelso    時間: 2008-7-16 09:33
Dear William and KK Sir,

I am interested in this course. Please count me in.

Thanks.
作者: colinwong    時間: 2008-7-24 11:49
I am beginer here and like to join the class.
Please reserve a seat for me, thanks.
Also, do I need to join the"DAC 原理和製作班" to complete the package? Because I do not have a DAC at home.
作者: admin    時間: 2008-7-24 17:46
開始正式報名

http://shop.hififever.com/product_info.php?products_id=299
作者: ricky42c    時間: 2008-7-25 02:22
Dear Admin.

訂金己付,請查看.

THANKS!
DYNA
作者: ricky_lui    時間: 2008-7-25 10:31
Is the date fixed? I need to rearrange my work on 16/8.
作者: likylam    時間: 2008-7-25 10:43
Hi William;

用大機箱要加幾多$$$ ?

歷奇


作者: ricky_lui    時間: 2008-7-25 12:38
KK Sir,

   請問CD Pro2 挑碟的問題解決了沒有? 可否讀到CDR? 可否一部機上裝上兩個 CD loader (當然是selectively 地用)?
作者: admin    時間: 2008-7-25 14:12
TonyWang
Dyna

Welcome to join!
作者: admin    時間: 2008-7-25 22:44
kenith
autumnleafcat

Thanks for joining
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-7-26 12:12
Hi Admin,

Just bank in deposit for CDPRO2M course. Please check.

BTW, I wanna reserve CDPRO2LF and large chassis if possible.

autumnleafcat.
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-7-26 12:45
Please reserve the extreme version for me, sorry for my mistake.

autumnleafcat.
作者: jason_lo    時間: 2008-7-27 15:29
diy完部cd盤野
係未要dac先PLAY得??

新手一問
作者: modi    時間: 2008-7-27 16:35
[quote:45954f0c9e="Jason_Lo"]diy完部cd盤野
係未要dac先PLAY得??

新手一問[/quote]

要加DAC做解碼。
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-7-28 12:45
I would prefer I2S implmentation to DAC that eliminate much jitter issue.
作者: admin    時間: 2008-7-29 09:24
ttzo thx for joining!
作者: sunboy    時間: 2008-7-29 12:48
請問我係新手(完全對DIY冇認識), 可以上嗎?
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-7-29 13:01
Sunboy,

Please come to open day, let you have some basic idea and concept.

Free of charge.

Chicken Sir
作者: bbleung    時間: 2008-7-30 22:13
Hi,

Deposit paid for cd pro2, pls check!
Want to use the large case. Btw., is there any special kits that need to reserve first?
作者: admin    時間: 2008-7-31 13:10
9.9N銅, thx for joining
作者: kenith    時間: 2008-8-1 11:56
可否留個大箱給我?
在那裹上課? 請E-Mial 地點給我.
謝謝!
kenith
作者: admin    時間: 2008-8-1 12:47
地點: 荃灣沙咀道29-35號科技中心9樓910室
作者: ricky_lui    時間: 2008-8-2 16:43
[quote:51308b1d37="R.L."]KK Sir,

   請問CD Pro2 挑碟的問題解決了沒有? 可否讀到CDR? 可否一部機上裝上兩個 CD loader (當然是selectively 地用)?[/quote]

Anybody can give me some idea? :roll:
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-8-3 12:38
Does CD Pro2 挑碟的問題 mean cannot read normal CD occasionally?

Have a look at these links for which all the CDPRO2 modules seem most probably released from there instead of direct out from Philips.

http://www.daisy-laser.com/products/CD/modules/CDPro2/cdpro2.htm

http://www.diy-high-end.com/index_bestanden/Page384.htm
作者: ricky_lui    時間: 2008-8-4 10:15
[quote:f296866c2b="autumnleafcat"]Does CD Pro2 挑碟的問題 mean cannot read normal CD occasionally?

Have a look at these links for which all the CDPRO2 modules seem most probably released from there instead of direct out from Philips.

http://www.daisy-laser.com/products/CD/modules/CDPro2/cdpro2.htm

http://www.diy-high-end.com/index_bestanden/Page384.htm[/quote]

Thanks autumnleafcat, a very useful information.

This course use CD-Pro2 loader, not CD-Pro2M or CD-Pro2LF loader, right? correct me if I'm wrong.
作者: admin    時間: 2008-8-4 11:56
已報名的如需預留CDPRO2或大箱請提出, 今次只有5套CDPRO2和4套大箱
作者: kenith    時間: 2008-8-4 15:47
Dear Admin:
Please reserve one set CDPRO2 and big box for me.
(CDPRO2, 大箱, 終極版)
other additional charge?
thank you.
Kenith
作者: adamcyc    時間: 2008-8-4 16:06
標題: 新手二號...
[quote:a3362234db="kk_ho"]Sunboy,

Please come to open day, let you have some basic idea and concept.

Free of charge.

Chicken Sir[/quote]

Hi KK Sir,

我參加完開放日之後對cdm9班有興趣,
不過有些問題想問:
1) 請問完成品可否直接接駁到AVM使用而不用外加DAC?
2) 如果1的答案是不能, 那會否在短期內有cdplayer and dac合班?
3)  如果2的答案是否的話, 自知是新手一名,
  但自問對手作很有信心,請問可否加入? 
4) 如果3的答案是ok的話, 可否用Credit Card 付款?

Thanks
Adamcyc
作者: ricky42c    時間: 2008-8-4 16:07
Dear William,

我都要大箱~

Thanks!
DYNA
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-8-4 20:54
Dear KK,

I have attended the open-day on 2 AUG and I had a thoughrough discussion with KK sir about my special interest in CDPRO2 project.

Since I have strong intention in making an integrated CD player using CDPRO2 (including digital in/out capability) rather than a pure transport. Personally I dislike SPDIF. I prefer the system clock being derived from DAC side, that should being known as least jitter.

I would use close distance I2S for data transmission between CDPRO2 and DAC, I2S also benefit to future expansion like DSP upsampling.

I express my vision in this project here and hope that KK sir can kindly support me on implementing my ambitous CD player.

After investigating the big chassis on open-day, I suspect whether this sexy metronorm a-like chassis have enough 實用面積 for my need. But anyway I still like to reserve this big chassis for this project.
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-8-4 22:16
May I know what kind of DAC you are looking for integrated with Pro2 ?
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-8-4 23:40
Most modern DAC like BB, ADI, Crystal use same I2S bus so I don't think swapping DAC's is an issue. I have PCM63PK, PCM1702PK, PCM1792 right now. The very first is to craft the system architect, incorporating all the basic elements (transport, digital filter, clock system, DAC, LPF). This is really an extreme experimental project.

I wish to build a flexible system that the elements can be interchangable, like swapping DAC, digital filter, output stage. The goal is to build a CD player that is absolutely neutral and rich in information. And beat down my current CD player (Meridian G08).

I don't like tube output at the CD front-end. I prefer solid state that pertains all the information from source rather than round-off.

If I got all the datasheet of the IC's including CDPRO2 loader, this would help a lot in formulating feasibility of the whole system.
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-8-5 00:14
Because I want to know your DAC type and check the space can enough to place or not.
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-8-5 00:31
I may use PCM1702PK at the beginning. I got NPC5802 as well. I wish the CDPRO2 clock being fed from DAC side. But I don't have CDPRO2 data at this moment that is a constraint to me on system development.

I also worry the space in chassis. Or I need a more bigger chassis?
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-8-5 13:53
Dear KK,

I just bank in deposit for the DAC course and would like to reserve DAC1955 package. If not enough chassis space, seperate chassis is still Ok. But the clock channel between two chassis needs discussion.

Thank you very much indeed,

autumnleafcat.
作者: admin    時間: 2008-8-5 18:00
bbleung, thx for joining
作者: admin    時間: 2008-8-5 18:24
autumnleafcat, thx for joining
作者: tonywang    時間: 2008-8-5 22:49
我都要大箱吧
作者: bbleung    時間: 2008-8-6 01:06
Tks Admin,
Also prefer big case for the cd pro2, tks!
作者: edmond1866    時間: 2008-8-6 19:47
Hi Admin,

I have done some basic soldering before, but nothing advance.
Am I suitable to attend this class?

Thanks a lot
Edmond1866
作者: adamcyc    時間: 2008-8-7 01:06
HI
我己經付款了,
admin please check!
I want CDM9 Small case

Thanks
Adamcyc
作者: admin    時間: 2008-8-7 10:40
adamcyc thx for joining
作者: classicyip    時間: 2008-8-8 10:53
標題: cdpro2
dear admin
i have just deposit 1000 to HSBC acc.
作者: classicyip    時間: 2008-8-9 21:43
dear admin

i want CDPRO2, 大箱, 終極版 pls
作者: ricky42c    時間: 2008-8-9 22:49
KK sir ,

我想問可否在第一堂先決定要Upgrade可以嗎?(終極版之類)
但大箱我已cfm.

THANKS!!!
DYNA
作者: ttzo    時間: 2008-8-10 01:42
I want a CDM9 & large chasis.  Thanks.
作者: admin    時間: 2008-8-12 23:27
classicyip thx for joining!
作者: admin    時間: 2008-8-27 14:34
謝謝大家參與CDM9/CDPRO2 CD 轉盤製作班,
30/8正式開始, 請在下午2:30pm 到 荃灣沙咀道29-35號科技中心9樓910室

Map: http://www.hififever.com/forum/files/thumbs/t_hff-map_196.jpg

CDM9學員請帶同尾數 $2980 現金或支票取套件
Cdpro2學員請尾數 $4680現金或支票取套件
升級零件可在場決定

到時見
HiFi Fever
作者: zi-bet    時間: 2008-9-11 03:56
CDM-9/CDPRO2 CD .
音響線材製作班
隔離牛製作班
HOW MUCH FOR COURSE?
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-9-11 09:44
Zero,

All starting now, for the price, you can refer of the front page.
作者: ricky42c    時間: 2008-9-15 23:16
KK SIR~

請問我測完我快版有無大問題?
別外問下下一堂係邊日?

Thanks!
DYNA
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-9-16 11:39
All,

I am receive 6 board right now, 2 board are fail.

1. Wrong connection of the Schottky diode.
2. Not soldering the resistor of LT1085. Also, soldering wrong location of LM317 and LT1085.

I would like to collect all people board first and let all people complete at SAME day.

So, I need the feedback from other 4 people.
作者: ricky42c    時間: 2008-9-25 23:16
KK sir~

幾時再續前缘?下半塲何時開波?

THANKS!
DYNA~
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-9-26 02:47
等D人做好個DAC先...
作者: admin    時間: 2008-9-26 14:06
星期三再收了1套板, 還有3-4位未交未試..

給大家多一個星期焊接, kk 多一個星期測試, 10月4日才繼續上課 , 完成焊接請電郵給我安排交收測試

還有如想Upgrade底部銅板的請看電郵和回覆
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-9-27 04:28
KK sir,

Is it totally 32 pieces of 47uF/16V OS-CON?

I miss the 22u OS-CON (C62), 100R (R310).
作者: schmike    時間: 2008-9-27 08:44
http://shop.hifidiy.net/product/170.htm
如果個case可以改到係咁上下就好喇
因為好似外露唔係咁好
希望kit sir可以諗諗再攪多班~~~
hehee
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-9-27 10:43
[quote:4d204b13f1="schmike"]http://shop.hifidiy.net/product/170.htm
如果個case可以改到係咁上下就好喇
因為好似外露唔係咁好
希望kit sir可以諗諗再攪多班~~~
hehee[/quote]

We have investigate this case, have some problem on the design, I can show you why

And.......

kit sir not my nick name..... he should be 007
I am KK Sir.

Don't mix. We are difference.
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-9-27 12:32
KK sir,

Just finish soldering CDPRO2 PCB, missing 22uF (C62) and 100R at SPDIF output. But still OK for testing. How I can send you the PCB?
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-9-27 15:20
All,

9月13日或20日 - 提交已完成的電源板家課到HiFi Fever (大家可在兩天中任何一天2:30-7:00pm任何時間到來交家課, 但不會上課)

作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-9-27 17:51
PASS LIST
Adam CYC
Tony Wang
DYNA
MR.Chu
Kenneth Lam
BBLEUNG
JACK YIP
autumnleafcat
TTZO

FAIL LIST (updated 30-SEP)
ERIC LEUNG (You have short circuit of the OS-CON Cap group)
9.9N銅 (Wrong soldering of all diode with reverse direction, not complete the soldering job of major capacitors, LM317T, please contact  admin to pick it up)

Not receive board list:

For the fail / no show people, please send a email to admin to arrange the madeup class before the lesson 2.
作者: autumnleaf    時間: 2008-9-27 18:51
Have sent email to William. Board ready for test at any time.
作者: ttzo    時間: 2008-9-29 13:38
K. K. Sir,

When I can join the make up class for correction of the wrong direction of all diodes.
作者: schmike    時間: 2008-9-30 20:39
[/quote]
We have investigate this case, have some problem on the design, I can show you why

And.......

kit sir not my nick name..... he should be 007
I am KK Sir.

Don't mix. We are difference.[/quote]
SORRY~
叫錯名~~~
希望可以減減價啦~~~
hehehe~~
作者: ricky42c    時間: 2008-10-1 10:55
Hi William, KK sir

問一問機箱到貨未?

心急人上
DYNA
作者: tonywang    時間: 2008-10-2 23:36
KK Sir ,

這星期六是最後一堂嗎 ?

是否需要付尾數 ?

能電郵確認一下餘額嗎 ?

Regards ,

Tony
作者: admin    時間: 2008-10-3 00:16
I will send email to you all to confirm tomorrow, hope no typhoon la..
作者: admin    時間: 2008-10-3 14:29
CDM9/CDPRO2 機箱組裝

明天 4/10/2008 (2:30pm) 開始
如還未給Power Supply PCB我們測試的請在11:00am到來先完成測試

明天請付尾數(現金或支票), 如有問題請電郵給我們
adamcyc $1030
dyna $3560
ttzo $3560
Tonywang $3560- $200 dac case = $3360
classicyip $3560
9.9N $4110
bbleung $3560
keith $3640
autumnleafcat $4190 -I2S module =  $3640
Mr chu $5790
Eric leung $4240
作者: kk_ho    時間: 2008-10-8 23:15
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