opa 627bp in MHZS cd33

Hi WINDWSS,

Tube pre-amp? not this moment, wait until i finnish MOD my CD player first, bcoz, if DIY Pre-amp, also need lot Budget, same thing like cd Player,
i want better sound, that why i spent some money to buy good component, you dont want after you Built the pre-amp, sound is worse than your AUDIOLAB, then no point to DIY the Pre-amp, also i want to Mod this cd Player to the MAX then only MOD my AUDIOLAB amp........ :wink:

So when you want to MOD your 8000A ? :wink:

Thanks for the diagram, if Tube pre-amp i Prefer to built CV3

hi viewer,

Thank for your info, as i know the MKC is metallized polycarbonate cap, it seems it is more expensive material than polypropene and have good electronics characteristic but i'm not sure good for audio use or not as i since most people like to use polypropene cap. MKP or MKS is the replacement for MKC as MKC no longer manufactured.... but i'm just thinking some manufacturer sometimes stop production of some product is to reduce cost with reduce a bit the quality. So sometimes latest version may not be better.... so in audio u think poly propene or polycarbonate is better?

Superwhite,

Ha... i not so ambitius and willing to spend like you... thus i look for other alternative way to look for parts loh.... by the way u 12 DIY a tube preamp not i got a DIY diagram using 6n3 & 6N11.....

Ah forget to tell u that i got some info on modify audilab 8000A which is to seperate the pre & power of the 8000A.....

[quote:9b30b696e1="viewer"]Hi superwhite,

Please let me the result and photo of you upgrade.

I think you will like the sound much after replaced the ecaps.

Thank you.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

Sure! :wink:  , but have to wait, because in here we having a LONG HOLLIDAY, maybe the shop will open next week.   

Thanks! hope sound like your said......

Hi superwhite,

Please let me the result and photo of you upgrade.

I think you will like the sound much after replaced the ecaps.

Thank you.

Hi viewer,

thanks, plan change all ecap to vishay even the 100uf 16v :wink: , will see how the sound like

Hi WINDWSS,

Bro! sound like you getting HOT now :shock: , when you going to MOD your cd? i'm still waiting......... :wink:

Hi Superwhite,

vishay or vishay BC Component for ecap are good (euro sound) warm and sweet.

Hi Windwss,

My Das is using a lot of RIFA PHE 428 caps, the high notes is clear (good).
I have no use Wima MKC4 before, so no comment on it.
But I used Wima MKP10 and Wima Black Box before. RIFA PHE 428 same of Wima MKP10.
Since Wima MKP10 is high grade than MKC4 so RIFA PHE 428 may be better than MKC4. I think.


Thanks for sharing.

[quote:1e40107aab="superwhite"][quote:1e40107aab="viewer"]Hi superwhite,

How feeling of tube Western Electric W396A ???
Is it are using in you cd33 ???
have you used RCA 5670 before and the felling ????
because in other web site is on sale around HK$120.00 pair.


Thanks you very much.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

BUY IT! good deal!   WE396A is a musical tube, Fast, the bass is stronger, compare to 5670 tube. you won't regret. even if you DONT wan , is very easy to sell off :wink: .



WINDWSS is using GE5670, i also bring 1 unit WE396A to him for testing, he also notice the diferrent, i think if put on your Jensen copper sound will be much better. [/quote]

Hi Viewer & superwhite,

Intially when i change my 6N3J to GE jan5670w, feel that GE sound very sweet, warm & nice but a bit slow & not so detail --> good for vocal but bass less tight, musical instrument also less excited. Since i prefer intrument like drum and so on, thus i some time change back to 6N3J when listen to musical instrumnet then back to GE when vocal.... Generally i will say WE 396 is overall good, sweet with detail thus no need to always change tube while listen to different song/music. compare the GE, WE396 is less warm & sweet but more detail, faster. GE tube construct is a way that it reduce the detail in order to give very warm & sweet sound.....

Hi viewer and superwhite,

Actually there are another alternative instead of making a black paper disc use on the CD, if u have old disket, open it and take the black manegtic thin sheet inside. it will give similar effect and much more easier than make it, nowaday most of the disket is 3.5inch, if u can get the 5.25inch one will be bettre as the size similar as the CD. But becareful, must remove thorougly the glue if not it may stick on the player tray.

The main fuction to to reduce vibration so sound stage become clear, less noice. If u willing to spend then can just buy this type of damping mat but not cheap loh....

Viewer,
Need some advise from you, do you think evox-rifa cap is better or wima (MKC4)is better or RIFA PHE 428? If use for tube coupling cap...


superwhite,

I now so aggresive as u thus i now ask friend around to get me some un-use circuit board n try to retreat useful cap. A lot medical equipment is using cap such as rifa, wima, nichikon n so on. Anybody heard of ERO cap (KP 1836 E5)? good or not?

[quote:85c0878fe9="viewer"]hi, superwhite,

Thank you for you information.

I have suprise toyou. I made a black colour picture paper on the CD. (Same size with CD) the sound from my speaker should be solid, clear, 3D.improved much.
costs = no costs.
You can try it or give comment.

Thanks you.[/quote]

Hi Viewer,

Really? o.k, will find black paper n try it.... :wink:

i have 1 more thing to ask, what series good for cd player?( i mean vishay or vishay BC Component) i saw so many series on FARNELL, dont know what to choose..... :?

hi, superwhite,

Thank you for you information.

I have suprise toyou. I made a black colour picture paper on the CD. (Same size with CD) the sound from my speaker should be solid, clear, 3D.improved much.
costs = no costs.
You can try it or give comment.

Thanks you.

[quote:282213894a="viewer"]hi superwhite,

RIFA PEH124 cap is very suitable. it si good cap.


Thank.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

will get the rifa cap soon, but just that here having a long holiday.... so got to wait next week only can get the cap.... actually i found it at RS component.

N finally get 2 more audio cap , 1 is VISHAY sprague atom, second one is Panasonic FC in farnell. Hong kong also got FARNELL, you can log in  http://www.farnell.com/  to select Hong Kong web, many cap to choose.....

hi superwhite,

RIFA PEH124 cap is very suitable. it si good cap.


Thank.

[quote:2d475e66a5="viewer"]Hi superwhite,
first photo look for audio but  like not real goods. colour not clear.
second photo for computer use not for audio.
third  photo just for ditigal eg. IC DAC only.

THANKS.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

thanks for info.

not much choice already, now left the RIFA PEH124 cap...... this suitable?

Hi superwhite,
first photo look for audio but  like not real goods. colour not clear.
second photo for computer use not for audio.
third  photo just for ditigal eg. IC DAC only.

THANKS.

Hi Viewer,

you have any idea of this two cap? good or bad?



ELNA starget, but dont have the value i want......



Nichicon Fine Gold..... look good



Sanyo OS-CON some said this is not a audio grade cap?

Thanks for sharing :wink:

Hi Viewer,

thanks! for your useful info.

i know hififever sell the jensen cap, but only 2 0r 3 choice.... :? i just that i dont want to trouble Mr William, always ask for price...... :wink:

will check it out later      

Hi superwhit,

A other web site you can find the caps as follow:
http://www.partsconnexion.com/catalog/CapacitorsFilm.html


My friend have buy Mit Rtx cap , tubs base and wire from this web sit, the good quality is very great. and some goods are cheap than HK.

Hi superwhite,

The Jensen authorized dealer in Hong Kong as follow web site:
http://www.soundexplorer.com/home/home.htm
Or you can buy it in http://www.Hififever.com

The other web sit for roe caps as follows in Taiwan:
http://www.tubefan.com.tw/capacitor-2.htm
http://www.thlaudio.com/

Hope to help you.

Hi viewer,

you know any online shop in hong kong selling Jensen Ecap or ROE?
:roll:

Hi superwhite,

Thank you yor advise.
I will try it later.


Thanks.

[quote:98509f493b="viewer"]Hi superwhite,

How feeling of tube Western Electric W396A ???
Is it are using in you cd33 ???
have you used RCA 5670 before and the felling ????
because in other web site is on sale around HK$120.00 pair.


Thanks you very much.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

BUY IT! good deal!   WE396A is a musical tube, Fast, the bass is stronger, compare to 5670 tube. you won't regret. even if you DONT wan , is very easy to sell off :wink: .

WINDWSS is using GE5670, i also bring 1 unit WE396A to him for testing, he also notice the diferrent, i think if put on your Jensen copper sound will be much better.

Hi superwhite,

How feeling of tube Western Electric W396A ???
Is it are using in you cd33 ???
have you used RCA 5670 before and the felling ????
because in other web site is on sale around HK$120.00 pair.


Thanks you very much.

another picture, some modification, change kimawe n diode.



after the modification, i try some of my favourite songs, it more warm n midrange thicker compare last time, i happy with it :wink:

Thanks for sharing

Hi viewer,

thanks for the Cap Picture, as WINDWSS said, what you want, there dont have, what there have only BG, reason 'what for get the cheap cake later sure you going to change again, it waste your money'  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
my dream crash after hear their comment........  just get 2 elna cerafine 100v 100uf(the only elna they have), some kiwame resistor n diode. hope next month can come out some budget to buy cap...   

some my up date picture

hi, ceci,

Opa 627 am is the best. don't waste the money to change other opa.

I also have Opa 627ap, 627bp, 627am, Opa 134, AD797AH, 5534 Philip
,5534 bis S.

AD797 natural sound.
OPA627AM Hi Fi sound.
5534 bis S not clear.



Thank you for sharing.

hi superwhite,

Have you drop the cap today.

I enclosed the photo of panasonic cap FC for your reference.


Thanks.

What is the difference between OPA627AM and OPA627bp?

My Shanling T80 has 3 OPA2604, I've recently replaced 1 OPA2604 with 2XOPA627AM + adaptor.  The player sounds warmer than before.

Just wonder whether changing the other 2 will give extra improvement, but quite expensive.

[quote="superwhite"][quote="viewer"]
i actually looking for elna cerafine, but there dont have, there only have is BG N series, 4700uf 35V about USD44/pc    too expansive......
quote]

That's the problem faced in Malaysia and it is the main factor DIY is not popular in Malaysia..-->hard to get parts, less choice... not much 2nd hand shop for HI FI equipment.....
  

[quote:f20546ac0d="viewer"]Hi, superwhite.
ref web sit http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/components/pdf/ABA0000CE22.pdf

Thanks.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

Thanks for your help

Hi, superwhite.
ref web sit http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/components/pdf/ABA0000CE22.pdf

Thanks.

hi, superwhite,

FK's size is tall than FC is standard acuatlly as same.
Of cours, BG standard is better than panasonic cap FX and FC. but BG std also very expensive.

If you diy shop provide the  Pureism and X-Pro series Capacitor is made by Panasonic Electronic specially for Audio, that the sound quality same sd BG std, it is cheap than BG std.
up to you.

reference web site :
http://eshop.diyclub.biz/product_info.php?products_id=265

[quote:868730a1f7="viewer"]hi, superwhite,

Is it  panasonic cap FK or FC series. (audio grade) ? It is musical.
The costs of it is not expensive. go head

Thanks.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

Thanks! will drop by the shop n ask what panasonic cap he has,

which one better? FK or FC? :roll: , how about BG std compare to panasonic?

hi, superwhite,

Is it  panasonic cap FK or FC series. (audio grade) ? It is musical.
The costs of it is not expensive. go head

Thanks.

[quote:312fb693e6="viewer"]Hi superwhite,

I would like to let me know, which brand of cap you prefer ??

I am using Elna Ra3 and Nichicon Muse. these quit good for bass.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

i actually looking for elna cerafine, but there dont have, there only have is BG N series, 4700uf 35V about USD44/pc    too expansive...... there said maybe have panasonic cap..... have to drop by tomorrow to DIY shop n see what there have :roll:

Thanks!

Hi superwhite,

I would like to let me know, which brand of cap you prefer ??

I am using Elna Ra3 and Nichicon Muse. these quit good for bass.

Hi viewer,

But call up the DIY shop here said no 4700uf 25V cap :cry: , ask anything also dont have..... dont know where to source some cap   maybe just change what ever there have first....... :wink:

Thanks!

Hi, superwhite,

I hope to see you modified cdp soon.

Thanks.

Hi WINDWSS,

Pls call when you ready...... :wink:

for the cable problem, i using CAT6 cable now, will get some cap n start MOD my cd player tomorrow..... will post some PIC later...... :wink:

Thank you both of you for the advice and guidance.....i will try to do mare practise before start soldering on teh board....

Superwhite,

will ask your help when all teh tools ready.....

For your speaker, try seperate and twist your internal cable in speaker 1st, if possible replace the white sponge to the yelow fibre sponge which people use in exzos pipe..... with this 2 trick most speaker will have better detail,sound stage, less quantity but tightter bass and more transparent...

After u do the above trick, u may not get the best sound immediately, it will take several day for it to stable as the spong will need time to adjust it spacing.....

from my experience every time after i adjsut the amount of fibre spong n positing on sand bag in my AE AEGIS it will take several day to stable down... thus initially the sound may not good....  it is quite time consuming unless u enjoy testing....

for speaker cable u may look for 7n single crystal loh.... i'm not as ambitius as u, i'm satisfy with my own make CAT5 cable....except my interconnect....

[quote:5e48b8d9ea="WINDWSS"]Dear viewer & superwhite,

Diy is fun but when need to do sodering i a bit worry... my soldering skill too bad....

Superwhite,

ha... if u change to audionote cap... then u 12 sell your 0.22uF mondoff? : )[/quote]

Hi Bro WINDWSS,

Dont worry i can guide you... but 1st you got to buy the soldering Gun, soldering lead n soldering paste(if need). Then buy a kits(small kit, can be anything) after that call me, i can drop by n guide you...... :wink:

Hi WINDWSS,

If your solder skill is not good, I suggest you learn more on it first,
because the PCB broad and the material are easy broken or shorting with other.

thank for sharing.

Hi WINDWSS,

see how first, the Cap have been reserve.


Still want to find some solution on my SPEAKER CABLE   dont know what good for my speaker) i still prefer the CABLE TALK 4 , more sweet but less detail........ any good Speaker cable in the market?

Dear viewer & superwhite,

Diy is fun but when need to do sodering i a bit worry... my soldering skill too bad....

Superwhite,

ha... if u change to audionote cap... then u 12 sell your 0.22uF mondoff? : )

[quote:0d933f9af1="viewer"]hi superwhite,

In my point, if you change copper oil the speed will slow a little, but very match you cdp 33 Map cap outup supreme siliver oil (speed and clear)
copper oil will add a warm and more bass. It must be run 300 hours.

Thank you for sharing.[/quote]

Hi viewer,

Thanks! :wink:  may try on copper oil n see what different...... but have to run again....... somemore 300hrs

hi superwhite,

In my point, if you change copper oil the speed will slow a little, but very match you cdp 33 Map cap outup supreme siliver oil (speed and clear)
copper oil will add a warm and more bass. It must be run 300 hours.

Thank you for sharing.

[quote:ebaf036558="viewer"]hi, superwhite,
sorry i am late to reply you, because out for dinner.

50v replace 25v is ok it will be better than 25v.
advantage can accept votage up to 50V and lower lost on singal.
disadvantage is the sound speed will be lower.
audionote caps is same as jensen cap, because jensen is oem for audionote.
but the price is lower than audionote.

You said replace siliver cableand inter connect, I think in you cpd will to fast, the sound will be to clear. This is my mind. copper is better.

Thank you for sharing.[/quote]


Hi Viewer,

Thanks for your info, it really help :wink:

not the interconnect, but speaker cable, i found it not suitable for my ear, too sharp, ofcause this cable have more DETAIL n CLEAR compare to my previous cable, is it need to run for long period? will try to get the 7N UPOCC cable n  try it :wink:

but 1 thing, i scare if i change to Copper oil, the speed will become slow....     what do you think?

hi, superwhite,
sorry i am late to reply you, because out for dinner.

50v replace 25v is ok it will be better than 25v.
advantage can accept votage up to 50V and lower lost on singal.
disadvantage is the sound speed will be lower.
audionote caps is same as jensen cap, because jensen is oem for audionote.
but the price is lower than audionote.

You said replace siliver cableand inter connect, I think in you cpd will to fast, the sound will be to clear. This is my mind. copper is better.

Thank you for sharing.

Hi viewer,

Need your help, if the cap is 22uf 35V, can i replace with 22uf 50V? any advantage n disadvantage?

[quote:936a2d7b9e="viewer"]Hi  WINDWSS,

Total cost for jensen cap around $700 because has discount in hong kong shop.
I used MF A400A class A amp.  and Mission bookself speaker (add DC current on cross caps.).
Total costs of upgrade around HK$1000 but the sound is better HK$10,000.00's cdp.

Diy not base on money. just fun. That is the interestof Diy.
do you agreed.

Thanks.[/quote]

Wah Bro viewer, want meh? use big amp to drive small speaker, the volume not even 8o'clock :  (joke)

[quote:d93d488c56="viewer"]Hi  WINDWSS,

Total cost for jensen cap around $700 because has discount in hong kong shop.
I used MF A400A class A amp.  and Mission bookself speaker (add DC current on cross caps.).
Total costs of upgrade around HK$1000 but the sound is better HK$10,000.00's cdp.

Diy not base on money. just fun. That is the interestof Diy.
do you agreed.

Thanks.[/quote]

Hi Bro Viewer,

Yes! i totally agree! diy is something like satisfaction, after you change something that improve on sound! Everyday learn new thing n is Fun, you wound feel bore, that my main purpose i buying this CD player..... :wink:

just get my silver cable, for my speaker, look like the silver cable very bright n clear. I dont know how long this cable need to run in :?  i got my Diode , n now still waiting my OPAMP . dont know until when i can get my OPAMP.

but 1 thing for sure, the Mundorf Silver/oil cap, Very Fast, it even faster than my friend cambridge audio 640C CDP.  :wink:

want to try the jensen cap, but cant get here, i only manage to find AudioNote Copper oil, dont know this Good or not , viewer what you think about this cap?