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DAC Lesson 2 class + CDM9/Pro2 Lesson 2.8 class and (11-OCT)

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kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-7 23:56:02 | 顯示全部樓層 回帖獎勵 |倒序瀏覽 |閱讀模式
11-OCT Arrangement.

9:00AM to 10:30PM

8:40AM to 9:00AM --> Breakfast (under Hififever)

9:00AM to 2:00PM --> CDM+CDPRO2 + DAC
Full support on CD + DAC classmate

2:15PM (Clear and reserve the space for DAC classmate, CD classmate can stay and check have enough seat or not).

2:30PM - 10:30
DAC classmate lesson 2. Assemble the DAC from 2:30pm to 11:00pm.

After 2:30PM, Limited support on CD Transport classmate.


JOE6,
Your DAC is completed. It can win all of the DAC found in Hififever.....
You can come to take or wait my demo of Sampling Rate converter.
16Bits/44.1KHz input --> Upsampling --> IIS to DAC.
(我要食卷 + 咀香園杏仁餅)


If your power supply is fully tested by me, and there are no major mistake (like reverse soldering of CAP, Op-amp socket), the DAC atleast have chance 90% sure 1 shot install pass.


If you are using your own components, please make sure it is working condition is good. If any mistake was found, I will stop immediately and you may need to change it to default components, depends on time, may not have enough time to help you trouble shoot of your own components.

I think most of the people will be finish before 5:00PM (if you come at 11:00AM)
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-8 00:29:50 | 顯示全部樓層

Re: DAC Lesson 2 class + CDM9/Pro2 Lesson 2.8 class and (11-

Check list:

Please help to take a look

Raphael So : Optical Input
                   Large height case

Adam : 6 pin cable for Keyboard
            3 pin for sensor / re-clock

TTZO : Relay

All : 4 pin socket (for fast testing, power supply use)
       2 pin long cable for testing
       3 pin long cable for testing
       4 pin long cable for testing
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-8 10:19:03 | 顯示全部樓層
Please let me know which components are missing or broken, let me arrange early....

THANKS
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-8 10:37:59 | 顯示全部樓層
We will arrange 2 machine for DAC classmate to listen.
(ONLY FOR DAC Classmate). If time is possible, will plug in the SRC...

One is Default and other is upgrade.

If time is allow,

We will arrange
[ PCM1704 X 4 ] DAC for AB comparision.
TDA1541A MKI
TDA1541A MKIII
LITE PCM1702 Tube DAC.

Transport machine available :
SONY CDP-XA5ES
SONY CDP-X5000ES (XLR balance digital output), FLAG SHIP MODEL
Philips CDM-9 transport
Philips CD-PRO2 Industrial grade version.
VICTOR (JVC) Transport
SONY DVD-S9000ES Transport
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-8 14:38:11 | 顯示全部樓層
Also have, but depend on time.

The major will use CDP-X5000 as CD Transport.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-8 14:45:07 | 顯示全部樓層
我要食旦卷 + 咀香園杏仁餅---no problem.
// Please help me to buy, I pay you back $ or parts.


I only can come at afternoon since morning have to work. Afetr the SRC listened, is that mean I won't bring it home if I will add SRC later?
// You can take it back to home, but I want you keep it at HF first for burn in 1 week. (or you come to take after 1 week)

Pls advice me what to do next for my dac, because I don't know it match with me cdp or not. (I can't find it is 44.1kHz or what, my cdp is CEC TL-51XR) Can U check that for me. TKS!
// It is hard to answer this question. Let me try.
You need to do the FRONT PANEL job (or at this SAT). Also, you need to soldering the output capaitor or test diff value for diff taste.
A Serveral upgrade can be do, but most components are already soldering on the board, the most possible upgrade is Output RELAY.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-8 23:54:59 | 顯示全部樓層
Joe,

Suggest you come at next week.

If you don't mind, I will help you to complete the front panel.

雞雞sir
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-9 00:26:41 | 顯示全部樓層
ACAT, Sugargar,

If your DAC is fully installed components (without 9 pcs of LM1117 LDO), I believe that you can complete within 4 hour.

15 min for me to test your board, PSU section.
30 min for you to soldering back of 9 pcs LM1117. And 5 pcs of inductors.
15 min for me to test the LDO output.
60 min for you to drill and install the chassics.
15 min for soldering the front panel.
30 min for install the LCD panel in the front chassics.
10 min for DC offset adjustment in HDAM output section.
30 min for wiring (L/R. SPDIF, AC Mains)
10 min for final measurement.

Total 215 minutes, no need too long, relax...
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-9 01:11:25 | 顯示全部樓層
太好人啦!好感動!但受益人不是我.

Macau man complete most ga la,
For not difficult thing and time consume job, let me help la.
He may give cake for me ga...


星期六留個位比我,我要努力自己完成~
GOOD sense.


(請問CDP個KEYOBOARD找到解決方法未?)
No, I don't want to think a method.
At Sat, Another "William" will come to Hififever.
He had over 30 year pure mechanical design experience. Most Adidas, Shinoto watch is designed by him.
I will ask him how to solve.

THX KK.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-9 15:26:20 | 顯示全部樓層
Button switch issue can be slove at SAT.

I purchase some "lower' height switch. Hope it can solve.

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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-9 15:40:37 | 顯示全部樓層
ADAMCYC :
Long Keypad cable and long push button ready for you.

ACAT,
2.21K and 100R are ready.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-9 18:11:48 | 顯示全部樓層
Your CDP must be 44.1KHz / 16bits SPDIF standard format.

For CDP label as 24/192

It means
1) It is using 24/192 DAC. OR
2) It have SRC inside, upsampling to 192/24 then feed into DAC.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-9 22:22:25 | 顯示全部樓層
TTZO,

After 2:30pm, it should be DAC class.

If seat available, you can stay but take note I will only have limited support on CD transport. DAC is the major.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-9 23:13:24 | 顯示全部樓層
You can add in the CDP or in DAC.

For CD, you can output 16,18,20,24 bits, 44.1, 48, 64, 88.2, 96, 128, 176.4, 192 KHz sampling rate.

For DAC, same as CD setting.

Suggest adding both.

It will available at early DEC.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-10 00:34:12 | 顯示全部樓層
Ultra busy now.......

Project 1.
SRC for CDPRO2 transport, also can use in any CDP.

Project 1B.
SRC for CDM9, also can use in any CDP.

Project 2.
SRC for DAC, also, can use in any CDP.

Project 3. (For CD-PRO2, CDM9 Transport + DAC, TWO SPDIF out (one is original 44.1/16, other is from SRC)
Re-design of CD-PRO2 and CDM9.
Board A : Power supply, re-positioning
Board B : Power supply for DAC, SRC.
Board C : DAC + MCU + SRC.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-10 23:07:42 | 顯示全部樓層
Ben,

Do you want me to cancel class to change another day?

Please advise.

THX
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-11 00:33:13 | 顯示全部樓層
Raphel So,

Optical input prepare.

Also prepare 10pcs.

First come first serve.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-11 17:43:35 | 顯示全部樓層
All,

Please vote the FINAL Lesson date here.

If no reply before 17-OCT.

We will fix any one day in OCT to finish it.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-12 21:18:37 | 顯示全部樓層
All,

Please report of your progress.

Example:
Complete the soldering and testing the PSU. (Y/N/Fail)
Complete the drilling the hole for CASE and PCB. (Y/N)
Complete mounting the AC Mains socket, RCA I/O (Y/N)
Wiring (Y/N)
Basic test (Y/N)
Measurement (Y/N)

The made up class should be only half day. And the piority is reserve for in-complete user first. For the classmate which have "accident" on his dedicated components(it is working for default components), we will reserve the time for in-complete user first.

Time and seat is limited available.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-13 17:59:51 | 顯示全部樓層
Questions:
1.KK Sir, can you troubleshoot the relay problem?
// May be the 2SB647 problem. MCU use this transistor to drive the relays.

2.By the way, would you please solid and mount the usb kit for me?
// Depends on time. Basically, it is a DIY course.

3.Regarding the balance in/out socket, should I buy it my self? Where can I find?
// You can use your own compoennts.


4.if I want to use balance and rca out, is there any modification of board?
// No need to mod. It is build in function.

Time:
18/10 9am-3pm
25/10 9am-1pm
26/10 whole day
every Friday night

Thanks
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-13 21:17:31 | 顯示全部樓層
Sugargar,

I will post the USB connection on web. Simple follow Input and output connection is OK

We assume all of the people is using real components.  Fake components may be let your system unstable or damange your system.

Question:
1) in the SPDIF in circuit, there are 2 slot for 0.01uf cap, from the theory side, any difference by using "雲母" (default) and film cap?

// The default is Silver Mica.

2) the USB module which you are working on last time, the connection method seems quite dangerous, no mounting, wiring crossing around, easy to contact with the caps in the DAC PCB, suppose the course will provide some material to mount the USB board on the DAC board safely? need suggestion and solution to solve these problems.

// It is a additional module, so there are no any mounting hole on this module. You can seperate to install on the chassics by connecting the IIS (not over 4 inch length) is recommened.

3) The coming SRC module can fit in the case or need hanging outside the case?

// BOTH can support.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-13 23:16:37 | 顯示全部樓層
bbleung,

It is for DAC only.

We will announce CD offical lesson later.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-14 00:40:22 | 顯示全部樓層
Gundam,

我部cdm昨天發現個機芯轉軸磁石跌出來,可否用AA膠上返?
Yes, but suggest usign PATTEX.

聽MANGER時試過只讀至第九首,其它碟就正常,何解?
Please try to re-read the TOC (by press the button which under Power switch in remote control.

我部DAC有SPEDIF INPUT同時可否Balance INPUT?
Sure CAN

在此再一次多謝KK SIR幫忙!
You are welcome.

Regards,
ZAKU
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-14 19:07:48 | 顯示全部樓層
We may have special class (min 10 people) at DEC.

24,25,26 DEC. 3 day continous.....

Or

27, 31, DEC and 1-Jan-2009.
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 樓主| kk_ho 發表於 2008-10-16 14:13:41 | 顯示全部樓層
All,

Stop discuss here, I will open another thread for

DAC supplement class, FINAL

&

CD transport class 3, FINAL
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